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Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Elitist fury: Miers in the line of fire

It's coming to the point where the liberals may look on all she has endured and say, "you've earned a seat on the high court. Here, if it really makes Republicans that angry, take it."

It's getting beyond the point of pathetic. I'll admit to being a little disappointed at first at Miers nomination, but only because she didn’t fit into what I considered was the only thing we needed–a carbon copy of Scalia or Thomas. I'm definitely over it after, having gotten a more complete picture. One thing is perfectly clear--it's no longer ordinary pro-life advocates who are blubbering. Indeed, they should be very pleased with her appointment if they know anything about her.

Since the initial din of protest, the current noise seems to be mostly from Washington insiders upset she isn't stereotypical. No Ivy League school, no long record in politics, no party-line Republican history, nothing...nothing except a pristine record of skillful practice and conscientious, selfless service to God and country–how shocking someone would think that enough!

I think we've spent so much time fighting a politicized judiciary, we've forgotten what it could and perhaps should look like!

I half expected WORLD Magazine to reflect this kind of exasperation when I read their cover piece on Miss Miers. Marvin Olasky, in his usual level-headed way (as opposed to a Coulteresque tirade), examined her in great detail and as well as some of the reactions that have been going around. He did a lot of talking to those who know her best:
They see her as an evangelical who is meek—in the biblical sense of humble strength. For 25 years she has been a member of Valley View Christian Church in Dallas, a conservative evangelical church and not one of the city's fashionable ones. Never married, she has devoted herself to work, her extended family, and her church, serving on the missions committee for 10 years, teaching children in Sunday school, making coffee, and bringing donuts.

At the same time, she's practiced corporate law in a major Texas firm. Mr. Kinkeade calls her "a superstar here in Dallas before George Bush ever entered the picture." He believes that some critics are attacking her because "she's not from the East or West coasts—didn't go to an Ivy League law school. They don't like that."

I think it's time some people shut up and sit down. Stop ranting about Souter, OConnor and judicial trends, and just recognize that she is different from any previous nominee. If I black out all the naysayers and just look at her for who she is, I really like what I see.

One more thing: Rehnquist wasn't a judge before he was nominated to the supreme court. Why should that be a problem now?

Crossposted at Meneltarma


At 10:49 AM, Blogger Brian B said...

Well said. I thought I was the only conservative yet who hadn't joined the lynch mob, glad to see I was wrong.

At 3:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... teaching children in Sunday school, making coffee, and bringing donuts."

Heck, and I thought she wasn't qualified for the Supreme Court.

If it wasn't so serious I would find it so funny.

But it is serious and "bringing donuts" is EXACTLY WHAT CONCERNS ME about Miers.

I have been around quite a while and I have known actually quite a few "ladies and gentlemen" in politics. They were in the end made laughingstocks of. They were abused mocked, ridiculed and of course since they were "ladies and gentleme" they treated those who opposed them with politeness, with courtesy, oh, and of course as colleagues.

Politics is no place for a lady. Politics is no place for a gentleman, and it is CERTAINLY NO PLACE for a SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER. It is a rough place where Sunday School morality doesn't cut it. In such a place we need A FIGHTER.

And as for the donuts, well the other Supreme Court Justices and their staff can get their one #$#!! DONUTS!

"... teaching children in Sunday school, making coffee, and bringing donuts."

A Sundy School Teacher who brings the donuts? She has no place even being involved in politics. Much less on one of the most important political positions in America.


Miers is going to so disappoint us. How do I know? Well I have been disappointed by Ellen Craswell, and Harold Hochstatter among so many other "ladies and gentlemen".

I know being in Oregon you don't know either of those two names. Well suffice to say that both of those people are great Americans. They are great Christians and probably would be the best neighbors one could ever wish for.

Both ran for Governor of Washington State and lost. Lost BIG TIME. They were too polite. They weren't fighters

And yes, although I don't know this for a fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bring donuts to their churches as well.

At 3:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the other Supreme Court Justices want some coffee, they can get their OWN FUCKING CUP OF COFEEE!

At 3:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... teaching children in Sunday school, making coffee, and bringing donuts."

I am not joking here. I do take quite seriously the above quote as a reason why WE DON'T WANT MIERS.

Miers is probably a great lady. She would probably be a great neighbor and most likely I would want her children to be in her Sunday School Class.


We aren't talking about that here. We are talking about her being one of 9 of the most powerful people on Earth - FOR LIFE!

I know, probably more than you the pressures of being a conservative in a liberal environment. Politicians probably more than most others WANT TO BE LIKED.

You have no idea what it is to go into a place day after day and being perceived by everyone around you as ENEMY NUMBER ONE. To go into a place and be despised. Every single day. It takes a strong person to fight the all too human tendency to behave in a way to try to get people to like you.

Miers doesn't have the stomach for it. She will want to have donuts with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the only way she will be able to do that is to back off on doing anything that would offend her.

Being liked may seem like Kindergarner stuff, but it really does have a significant and under appreciated effect on how conservatives behave once get in office.

And add to that the fact that as ladies and gentlement many conservatives want to treat liberals peers in office as colleagues and afford them some respect, it really does take a bulldog to counteract all that stuff.

A Bulldog. Not a Sunday School Teacher!

At 3:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Ms. Ginsberg. Get your FUCKING HANDS OFF MY DONUTS!

At 3:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ms Ginsberg should get her own FUCKING CUP of Coffee.

And if this profanity offends you, well I don't care.

Well Acutally I do and I am making a point. There are more important things here that profanity. For too long conservatives were worried about being polite, being "ladies and gentlemen" while every one of their rights were being taken away.

Well, I wouldn't want to be considered rude. I wouldn't want to offend people. What would the niehgbors say?

So year after year we just let more of our freedoms be taken away. Because getting into the fight doesn't seem gentlemanly, or ladylike. And after all what we believe is just commonscene. It's logical, and logic wins the day doesn't it>

And so for decade upon decade we just lost political ground. We just lost more and more of our rights. Sure we had our country pratically taken away from us but at least we weren't rude when they were doing it.

Well, to win you have to get into the fight. And if someone is shooting bullets at you, you might just say something that would disappoint your Sunday school teacher.

If you think that my profanity is more concerning than the fact that Miers isn't qualified for the court and will not defend and restore our constitutional rights, then that's the Real Problem!

I don't want a Lady Supreme Court Justice. I want a BULLDOG Supreme Court Justice! (Gender of the Bulldog doesn't matter).

At 4:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, wait.

If Miers is supposed to be like this Super Christian Lady Sunday School Teacher why did she donate money to AL GORE?

Something is beginning to smell here beyond the burnt coffee and stale moldy donuts.

Don't forget 7 out of 9 of our current Justices have been appointed by REPUBLICANS.

Yet they keep on rulling to the far left.

There is a saying fool me once shame on you, fool me twice SHAME ON ME.

We have been fooled by Republican Presidents before on their Supreme Court Justice choices. MORE THAN ONCE.

Or is this kind of thinking too "elitist" to you?

At 4:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just think of all the FUCKING Donuts and Coffee she could have bought with the money she donated to ALGORE.

At 4:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't help it, this is hillarious.

Yes, in a gallows, black humor kind of way.

This is just tearing my heart to pieces. I feel betrayed. I feel like Bush is trying to make a fool out of conservatives.

But apart from that this is so funny. Sometimes it just hurts so much the only thing you can do is laugh.

Bush's own lawyer. A Supreme Court justice. Her qualifications she is a meek Christian lady who teaches Sunday School, makes coffee, and brings donuts.

Hah, hah, hah hah!

DAMN GEORGE BUSH. DAMN HIM TO HELL! The Supreme Court was the ONLY REASON I VOTED FOR HIM LAST YEAR. And he has now turned that and all of us into laughingstocks!

At 4:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


I am pissed.

You would be too if you really understood what was at stake!

At 7:02 PM, Blogger Mark said...

Thank you anonymous. I'm a big fan of talking about one very limited quote when it's appropriate...thank you very much. Next time you could perhaps limit it to just one comment--since content-wise that's all it deserved. I mean really...as much as I like coffee and donuts...

Cheers...Have a good day--if that's possible (considering your fevered state of mind).

At 8:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I think that one quote was very telling of the whole damn Miers nomination!!!

And for them to say that it's the elitists who are going after her.

It is the elitists who want her because she won't make waves. Elitists hate waves.

It's the grassroots who have seen this nomination for what it is. It's an INSULT!

SO, let's get this straight. If you don't like Miers, that makes you a sexist even though you might recognize that there are other more qualitified women than her out there.

Some names that come to mind are Edith Brown Clement, Edith Jones, Karen Williams, and saving the best for last Janice Rogers Brown.

And since we are being oh so PC here by only considing women, consider this If Janice Rogers Brown were appointed to the Supreme Court, she would become the first African-American woman Justice. Something we could shove into the faces of liberals for years.

But, nooooo. Bush has to go appoint a "meek Sunday School teacher who makes coffee and brings donuts to church" (the proponents' description of her not mind).

It makes me wonder who the real sexists are here now.

And also since I was rooting for Janice Rogers Brown I guess that makes BUSH A RACIST for not appointing her! The Bush adminstration started the game by calling opposition to Miers sexist, so I believe it is only fair to just in the spirit of playing along in the same game call him a white RACIST!

At 8:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I myself found it quite offensive that the Bush spin masters would think that conservatives would start supporting Miers if they told us that she went to church.

Yeah, yeah, say she makes coffee, brings donuts, and teach Sunday school. Those religious kooks back in fly over country would eat that shit up.

This nomination shows that Bush has absolutely no respect for the base that brought him to office.

As I said, I don't want a Sunday School Teacher for Supreme Court Justice. But lets get real here. SHE DONATED TO ALGORE.

She is not some Sunday School Teacher but some slick political operative who will swing whichever way she things benefits her the most.

Which on the Supreme Court means she will swing to the left.

We have too many slick opportunists masquerading as conservatives in Washington DC already. Political operatives who wait until they find the most opportune situation to stab us in the backs. We don't need one on the Supreme Court.

So, regardless of whether she is this meek little coffee making, donut bringing, Sunday School teacher, or as her donation to Algore indicates a slick political opportunist.

Either way, she is the wrong person for the Supreme Court. As Ann Coulter says Harriet Miers isn't even qualified to play a Supreme Court justice on "The West Wing."

At 9:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a top Liberal ACLU lawyer was confirmed by the Senate by a 96 to 3 vote.

Where were the Republican Senators back then?

Can you see why I can't trust either Bush or Republican Senators to act in our interests now!

At 10:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This nomination is an insult to women (by saying that Miers is the best woman Bush could come up with) as well as conservatives.

And it isn't about her never having been a judge. Ann Colter said it best.

"The other straw-man argument constantly being hawked by the Bush administration is that Miers' critics object that she's never been a judge. To quote another Bush – Read my lips: No one has said that. So please stop comparing Miers to Justice Byron White (first in his class at Yale Law School) or Justice William Rehnquist (first in his class at Stanford Law School). "

At 11:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miers has proven by her change from Democrat to Republican that she will change her views over time. Either that or that she will change her affliation to suit her best interests at the time.

And if she has changed before, it makes it likely that she will change again. And history says that she will become more Leftist in her views.

How do you justify her donation to Al Gore then?

She didn't know what Al Gore was all about? So, she is stupid then? I don't think she is qualified for the Supreme Court, but she isn't that stupid.

She knew what Al Gore was all about but for some political reasons it benefited her to donate money to the Left. Oh, then the is a political opportunist then.

She once believed in what Al Gore believed in, but before meeting up with Bush suddenly had a revelation that all she had previously believe was wrong? Or then her views have been known to shift over the years? Might they shift again?

Miers is so obviously a bad choice. I am insulted that Bush thought that he could get this through without conservatives noticing. Perhaps he didn't care. And that offends me too.

At 12:54 PM, Blogger Brian B said...


Speaking of coffee, have you ever considered decaf?

Really, it might do you some good.

At 3:50 PM, Blogger Mark R said...

He moved over to my blog instead--24 comments later over there, I've decided I'm almost ready to discontinue the string, post again on the same topic and then see if he wants to start all over...

...and if he does, I'll know for sure if he has a life or not.


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